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18 February 2007

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Al Sensu

Strip Club etiquette is not difficult to learn by observation. When approached and I don't want a dance, I have two possible answers, both delivered with smiles: 1/"no thanks" if I'm sure I won't want one from that dancer or 2/"no thanks, maybe later" if I'm not sure.

But I would also say that many dancers need to do a better job of selling themselves. For some, the way they relate to you when you're tossing dollars by the stage does the job. Otherwise, I find a personalized approach will work, and gets me to accept dances from women who may not be my "type". My sense of whether I'm going to get the kind of dance I'm hoping for has more to do with the dancer's personality than her looks.

I remember my very first strip club visit. I was solo in a new town on business and had no idea how things worked. I sat and observed for a good hour without being approached. Now I was ready. A dancer walked up and sat next to me; started some small talk. Then she asked if I'd like a dance. This was 20 years ago, and "table dances" were $5. Before starting she leaned in close, licked behind my ear and whispered "Would you like the $5 dance or the $10 dance?" Naturally, I said $10, and got something close to a lap dance in a place where the $5 got you the girl dancing next to your table but with minimal contact. I've enjoyed similar sales techniques since. Some years later in the same town, I agreed to a dance, and re-confirmed the amount. She said "$30, but I'll do 5 for a hundred." I said, "let's start with one." Halfway through, it was so good I told her we were going for five. She squealed with joy and I really got my money's worth.

Crotch Rocket

"Just say, 'No, thank you.' We appreciate politesse." Some of you do. Others argue and try to convince the customer to change his mind. That annoys us to no end, and if it happens enough times it's going to test a guy's patience. After the tenth Miss Djewanadance hassles us in five minutes, we're not feeling so friendly.

You also left out two other groups. Some guys go to strip clubs thinking that the overpriced drinks are paying for their entertainment and that a girl dancing five feet away on a stage is just as good as one dancing two feet away on the floor -- and the one on stage is "free". Others just may not be into you for whatever reason; maybe he likes redheads instead of blondes, or natural tits instead of implants, or something else. No matter how incredibly hot you are, there's always going to be guys just not that into you.

Also, my experience is that the dancers that most men want are the ones that never approach anyone; the minute they get up from a table they're grabbed by another guy. The ones who have to walk around doing the Djewanadance routine are the ones that we _don't_ want, unless the guy's tastes are pretty far outside the norm.

"it remains amazing to me how rude men could be to us dancers." And it remains amazing to me how rude women can be to men. A strip club is the only place on earth a woman gets rejected the way men get rejected everywhere else. You in particular may be nice about it, but (a) many of your fellow women are not, and (b) you're still rejecting us. Rejection sucks, no matter what gender you are; men are expected to just deal with it, and when you take your clothes off for a living, you are too. It's your job. As someone once told me, if you liked everything about your job they wouldn't have to pay you to do it.

The Fury

I agree there's no need in being rude. The many "no thank yous" and "not just yets" I've spoken at strip clubs were always accepted (well except one) with graciousness. The one that wasn't so gracious yelled at me "you're just trying to be nice cuz you're sitting with these women. You know you want me muthafucka!"

She was right. Unfortunately, when I went looking for her later, she was no where to be found.

I've also found that if the girl isn't exactly your type, you can usually ask her and she'll find your type for you...proper etiquette requires you tip her for that as well, cheap skates!

It is interesting that you concentrate on the rejection, and I'm sure that there was plenty of it, but at the same time you had enough acceptance to make enough money to make it worth your while. After all you started every shift owing money to the house and others. You had to get enough acceptances to recover that and take enough money home to pay your bills. You did it and in your 30's. I'd say that was pretty damn good.
One of the things about stripping is that most every shift there are acceptances. There are many other jobs with the same acceptance/rejection ratio, but perhaps not as many where you can expect on the number of acceptances in so short a time.

I enjoy your writing
Kent

How about a piece on how a customer or a dancer moves the relationship out of the club?

Walden

As an occasional patron, I always try to treat the ladies with the same respect I would give anyone. "No thank you. Or maybe a Not right now." I am usually a sucker for a dancer that knows the secret of eye contact. The smoldering look or lick of the lip with a solid look at my eyes. I would rather get a dance from a not so smokin hottie that knew how to act interested than the most gorgeous robot in the place that obviously had her mind on what she was going to pick up at the store on the way home.

My pet peeve is the guys that sit away from the stage on a slow night when you know the ladies aren't doing well and watch for hours without tipping.

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