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11 January 2007

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v.

I for one have made out quite well from the Google snafu. Because that's how I found out about your blog. I can hardly remember where I found the story now and, no, it didn't have a real clickable link, but that's not going to stop anyone technically literate enough to cut and paste your blog name into.. errr.. a google search box.

Thanks for sharing your world!

Tony Comstock

Let's not forget this is the same organization that was more than happy to put Rob Black and Lizzie Borden on national television, complete with their camera crew mawkishly leaving the set of one of Black and Borden's productions because they were "too disturbed" by what was being videotaped.

Karl Elvis

I like that the blogging community is coming out to ask Glaser to post those links on his column. His editors need to get that message.

Traboyk

I can understand your argument and bewilderment. But, I believe you answered your own question in your piece. PBS is intelligent and alternative programming to corporate TV. And because of this, it plays a little safe in some of its choices (whether in trying to put either objective commentary or failing that, giving multiple sides of the argument to some of its choices in programming. I mean, how many freaking nature programs must one have?)

It is also known that the past few years, PBS has been hit by conservatives for being "too bias" (or worse "Liberal") in its reporting and has been the target for change at its highest levels to change to a more acceptable viewpoint of such dissenters. So, while I love hearing your musings on sucking your love's epic fat-bellied cock, the physical/emotional highs and lows of anal sex, and making Secretary look like a PG-13 movie, I think it's a bit understanding why they may be gun shy.

Traboyk

And here are some links to the appointment troubles:

http://www.sciencedaily.com/upi/index.php?feed=Entertainment&article=UPI-1-20061222-20340500-bc-us-pbs.xml
http://www.current.org/cpb/cpb0509mess.shtml
http://www.commondreams.org/headlines05/0509-07.htm
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2005/11/28/bill-moyers-the-adminis_n_11333.html

Stan

And let's not forget that Frontline program about porn where they talked about cable TV and how it 'allows pornography to come into the home'. Like porn is a rat or something that crawls in all by itself. They seem to have a problem with stuff like this. But just remember, it's their problem, not yours. You aren't doing anything wrong.

Artfuldodger

I have to admit that I am not surprised that the PBS article failed to link back, while I personally disagree, the issue actually has several facets that need to be understood and appreciated.

Most importantly, in this instance, PBS has ZERO control over the audience they attract on-line and could be held legally liable if someone clicked a link and was led to a website that contained adult nudity and/or topics for which PBS could not be held responsible. In the Editor's mind this was a risk not worth taking. I have to agree with him in that position, he or she would be left with little choice honestly.

We live in a litigious society and companies, especially those held to the public trust, operate under rules and guidelines to which we here in the blogger world are not held to. These are important factors that cannot be ignored and the failure to adhere to them could easily be seen to cost this person their job, and or at the very least cost PBS sponsorship dollars and/or government funding.

In the end the PBS audience is a more intelligent audience, yu said so yourself, and not having links is not going to stop them from finding you, should they want to. And that, in my opinion, is the most important thing. Not leaving links makes this a choice, and not one already made by PBS.

PS: I still love ya!

Peter

Hey, I think the lady protests too much ! So what if you're not linked in the PBS article. You are back on Google, which was your goal. So you can have your cake and get eaten too?

Peter

saratoga

You make a point which I have always believed to be true, although it is rarely voiced.

Namely, if something, in this case, personal approaches to sexuality, is shunned and reviled by, as you contend, both the Christian Right, and the PBS-Liberal Left, then it's no longer a political thing. It's somehow a societal thing, and neither organized, mainstream party is better, or worse, with respect to this issue.

learn

Hmm. You can watch the sexually explicit content in their mentioned 'American Porn' documentary, right off their site. Surely, simply warning that the blogs contain explicit material, as they have done for the documentary, would have covered their liability enough? Maybe along with a little footnote that these sites do not necessarily reflect the views... blablabla?

I feel if they choose to mention sex blogs-- never mind use their content as meat for their article-- they can afford to do that much.

Not that I want to discourage em completely. Baby steps?

Thanks for speaking up about this.

Mark Glaser

Just FYI, here's what I posted in an update on the PBS MediaShift blog about this:

A number of people have asked why there aren't links to the sex blogs mentioned in this post. If Google had been blocking the blogs, then there would have been links included. But because anyone can easily find the
blogs through a search on Google, PBS.org felt it was not necessary to include the links here and risk offending some readers who might not expect to find links to explicit sites on PBS.org.

Currently, there are no hard-and-fast rules for the content we link to at MediaShift, and it's a delicate balance of being open and also being aware of the adult nature of content we sometimes link to.

I ask that you as MediaShift readers please leave comments explaining what you think the link policy should be here and elsewhere on mainstream
media sites and blogs. Should we link to explicit material and how should that be handled? Should we include a warning before the links? Which links are OK
and which are not? Your thoughts would be appreciated and I hope to return to this issue in a more in-depth way on the blog. PBS editors, who are involved in this issue, tell me they are very much open to your suggestions.

Padoodles

There is quite a discussion going on over there. I added my thoughts and I'm glad others have also. It's wonderful that it's open to discussion and that Mr. Glaser is actually bringing attention to this issue. It's a wonderful community that rallies around those we respect and admire.

Love you, Girl... keep it up!

O

PBS screwed up, that's all there is to it.

I don't think this is just about sex or adult content though, in the broadest sense. I think it's about the collision of old media with new. All these "old media" outlets are still trying to figure out how to handle the intertubes. Far less than 6 degrees seperate any given site from another with content we may or may not like.

PBS is going to have to look at their linking policies, not just for sites with "adult" content. This issue is popping up all over the place--Charles Johnson, who runs the vile political blog LGF, can show up on CNN despite the fact that there are hundreds of comments daily on his site calling for genocide.

I hope PBS will ultimately make the right decision: link everything, always, with a warning if necessary.

It absolutely sucks that you and TC and Violet Blue weren't linked in that post--and it's typical of our puritanical culture that "adult content" would be where this issue starts getting discussed--but this is a bigger issue than adult blogs ultimately.

That's what PBS needs to realise. It's about the future of information flow and it's about intellectual property. The rules for scholarship and the attribution of intellectual property can't change because of the nature of the medium.

This is not the first time old media has been flummoxed by new. Look at Deborah Howell's exceedingly brief blogging career over at the Washington Post, and how quickly the comment feature needed to be shut down.
I see this recent fuckup by PBS as of a piece with that.

Brian

Hi CG,

I'm sad that I can no longer read your blog at work. When I click your bookmark I get a blocked page error labelling you as Pornography.

I appreciate your good writing and your hottness. I thought you would want to be aware of this; I don't know if it could somehow be related to your Google problems (I'm thinking not; it's probably due to my surfing being monitored at work). They also recently blocked the Sun (UK) website in some other category.

Keep up the good work.

chelsea girl

Brian,

Get a Bloglines account. You can receive any posting with an RSS feed on it, including my posts. Your other choice is to proxify your address--just Google "free IP proxy" and pick your poison.

thanks for the devotion,
chelsea girl

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