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12 August 2005

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v

i'm always considering it.
you haven't really helped me decide: therapy or not?
but you always make me want to post.

Shylah

You didn't offend me at all, as I stated in my response to your e-mail. No need to worry about that at all.

In fact, you helped me to put some things into a new perspective. I learned something. Shit, write that down, quick, cause I'll forget.

figleaf

Hi CG,

I know exactly how you feel, though I haven't felt that way for years. Decades really. But I remember it very well. We each have to take our own way out of there and it sounds like you've found a very, very good one. (I happen to like Freud quite a bit. In a way he was the last Victorian. If you understand him in that context he's a lot more forgivable even though he left some very long smelly brown streaks through too much of the 20th Century.)

The rusty wheels of my crisis hotline training tried turning when I began reading your post but when you got to the line "I recall telling a friend of mine that I thought it was something I would just have to live with" and again I knew exactly how you felt. The wheels just settled down again.

Like I say I don't know a lot about Freudian analysis but it sounds like it's happening with you.

Finally, I think it's really, really cool that you've stopped to recognize so much progress. Sure, you can still expect ups and downs yadda yadda, but it sounds like you're way above sea-level now and you're no longer drowning.

Talk to me if I'm totally wrong. You're really important to me and a lot of other people in your life so I don't want to assume anything.

Take care,

figleaf

leigh

Wonderful post.

I'm wondering what it is about Chelsea-shrink that makes this round successful. My problem with therapy as narrative, or storytelling as therapy, is that I talk a good talk, endlessly. I am tired of talking and paying for the privilege. It hasn't worked for me in this post-divorce (and my own couple of years of slut-fest, lasting longer than a summer) life. Of course I am no longer in New York, where it is practically a requirement of residency. But I am tired of looking for a good shrink. It reminds me of looking for a good man. Instead, I resign myself to being less than whole and loving my children. My first love, true love, was my English professor. He wrote about Freud as a fanciful cocaine addled prosodist,is that a word? He wrote about him as the maker of that modernist narrative. We talked a lot, he and I. Best conversation I've ever had. I miss that. I live with hillbillys. I am tired. I've gone on. xox

O

I've said it before, and will again: in every post of yours there is always more than one sentence or turn of phrase or image I actively covet. Dang woman you can write.
I find it fitting that it'd be a Freudian who'd help you so much, you know. A belief in the raw and transforming power of narrative--this belief structures your life in many ways, it influences even your dissertation topic. Moreover it's a belief every blogger shares, though few ever articulate, and none ever could articulate so well as you.
All my love, O

Goose

I see certain similarities between us or our stories. I have suffered from depression, thought those same thoughts, sought help and found it. The image I always had of my depression was of walking right on the edge of a cliff over looking a rocky shore and deep ocean. I could see people living inland safe, behind walls or gates, but there I was treading a path feeling less than sure footed.
Now, I see that cliffline from a distance and I trust my footing so much more. I occasionally miss the view of the ocean though. I'm not sure if you'll understand that, but I think you will. Perhaps that is why sex on the edge is appealing to me. Its an edge that's in my control as opposed to living on an edge, in an edge, as an edge.
Take good care and keep working.

Danielle

Hope:
1. To wish for something with expectation of its fulfillment.
2. Archaic. To have confidence; trust.

This is what you give me, like a little magical gift you don't even realize you're giving.

I'm so proud of you. You've come a long way.

Alohalani

Hers:

1. But when I hold this vessel of myself up to the light, I see pinpricks, cracks, a barest chiarroscuro of light. A year ago, or two, I had whole Malaysian puppet shows playing in the fractures of my psyche.

2. (she is out of the hospital, supporting herself with a job that happily for her does not require her to interact deeply with other people. She calls my parents and sees them regularly. She sometimes leaves me messages. She is ok, she is holding on; she will most likely never, ever be whole)

3. And they are these: when I am in a moment of stress, killing myself is the first thing that pops into my head. I don’t make plans, exactly. I make fantasies as pleasurable and tactile in their own ways as my fantasies of sex are.

4. The point is this: suicide for me has always been the fallback plan. Plan D: death. And I used to be so dogged by these final solution thoughts that I recall telling a friend of mine that I thought it was something I would just have to live with.

5. It amazes me, this change. And it scares me. Because it is different from the rest of the way I have lived my life; enough time spent and even knifewalking seems normal. I’m liking the feel of the floor beneath my feet; I’m just not accustomed to it yet."

Mine:
On 1: Yes, that is exactly how it is, isn't it? When one begins to heal... You've captured a concept and once again, perfectly, illustrated it. And I am happy to read these words of yours, my friend. I've paused a moment to analyze at what point am I in my healing.

On 2: When I read this, I could feel my heart contract in pain, a sigh slipped from between my lips, and my eyes teared. Somethings don't heal. Most do. I feel an affinity for your sister. As I often say, if good thoughts and well-wishes have a force of their own and can in some way influence the universe, than surely my wished for your sister will in some way reach her. *hugs*

On 3/4: It's the first thing that pops into my mind as well. It is my security blanket, my life-buoy. I know that if it all gets too much for me to handle I do have the option to leave this world. Knowing that I have a choice and that if needed I can stop the pain actually gives me strength. I often think that yes, I can do this "life" thing one more day, one more week, one more month. And that little mantra gets me through all of the pain. And as I survive another painful episode in my life, time, sneakily, has partially healed some of the worst hurts. I've had moments that I had to call people because I felt a strange attraction to my balcony, a compulsion to attempt a swan dive off the twelth floor. It doesn't happen often, but when it does, it's very scary. I've called suicide hotlines and had them come pick me up and ended up in observation where I told one of the three doctors that spoke with me, that I was probably one of the most intelligent crazy people he'd meet anytime soon. This last year has been a better one for me. Apart from my 12 year old daughter sending me a hate email on mother's day.
On 5: Another apt imagery. I am glad that it has become a beam for you. *hugs*

As always, love you!
Alohalani

Edgy Mama

Go girl. Keep thinking, reflecting, hoping, dreaming. None of it is easy, but it's usually worthwhile.

Death is a wimpy option, and I know you are no wimp. And I know how you feel.

I hate therapy as well, but there have been a couple times in my life when it has smoothed the rough edges and punched pinpricks of light into the darkness.

Thanks for sharing--for your honesty and beautiful writing.

introspectre

I had quite a few wretched shrinks, and two that were absolute jems. When I first discovered blogging I realized the treasure I had stumbled upon: the telling of my story. And on and on it goes. Heh- that's where the name "Introspectre" came from- the misty spectral form of introspection that I so frequently indulge in. It is my growth.

Sometimes growth can be very painful. There have been times where I have gone too far, too fast, and had to take a break. I think it's perfectly ok to take those breaks and not get burnt out in the growth process.

Your growth and unfolding is beautiful to behold, Chelsea. Just beautiful.


"And the day came when the risk to remain tight in a bud was more painful than the risk it took to blossom."
~Anais Nin

chelsea girl

You are all wicked kind, as in "very," not as in "bad." Perhaps, as my beloved Freudian would say, my slip is showing, for in every pun there lurks parapraxis.

But I say it's just my NorthEast.

And that's the story I'm sticking with.

I truly appreciate everyone's kind words. Especially on days like today when I'm feeling a mood indigo, your words mean much to me.

Thanks for being part of my world.

CG

JoeyMadison

Chels,

You are an amazing woman, each facet of your life I find terribly interesting!

I'm happy for you, I'm happy to hear that you've realized how far you've come the last year or two!

Thanks for writing so openly to us.

EE

Wow.

Fantastic post.
Came her through being online friends with Raven (Mark) and Ben. Mark and I go back as blogging buddies a while now...almost a full year.

Keep up the fantastic writing.
And the fantastic progress... on you.

p.s. I hated therapy too.
It's a love-hate thing...
;)

geoff

I truly hope that you're still seeing "Chelsea". She sounds wonderful, and I hope and pray (or would if I did) that she'll help you through this latest shit.

I only did it for a couple weeks, and my doc made me understand my Mrs. had truly left me. Which sucks. But is the truth, nonetheless.

My favorite suicidal fantasy is drowning. Fortunately, I have two daughters, so not really an option.

Please take care of yourself.

g

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